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Robert Lazar
Robert Scott Lazar

Template:Birth date and age
  • Former film processor
  • Owner of United Nuclear Scientific Equipment and Supplies
Spouse(s) Joy White


Robert Scott Lazar (/ləˈzɑːr/; born January 26, 1959) is an American businessman, film processor, pyrotechnician, and owner of United Nuclear Scientific Equipment and Supplies. Lazar is primarily known for his claims of being hired in the late 1980s to reverse engineer purported extraterrestrial technology at a secret site called S4, located several kilometres south of the Area 51 United States Air Force (USAF) facility. Lazar claims he examined an alien craft that ran on an antimatter reactor powered by the (then un-synthesized) element 115.[1][2] He also claims to have read US government briefing documents that described alien involvement in human affairs over the past 10,000 years. Lazar's claims resulted in bringing added public attention to the Area 51 United States Air Force facility. His story gained renewed attention due to a June 20, 2019 interview with Joe Rogan, as well as a 2018 documentary about his life, entitled Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers.


In May 1989, Lazar appeared in an interview with investigative reporter George Knapp on Las Vegas TV station KLAS, under the pseudonym "Dennis" and with his face hidden, to discuss his purported employment at "S-4", a subsidiary facility he claimed exists near United States Air Force facility Area 51. He said the facility was adjacent to Papoose Lake, which is located south of the main Area 51 facility at Groom Lake. He claimed the site consisted of concealed aircraft hangars built into a mountainside. Lazar said that his job was to help with the reverse engineering of one of nine flying saucers. Bob claims one of the flying saucers, the one he coined the Sport Model, was manufactured out of a metallic substance similar in appearance and touch to stainless steel. In a subsequent interview that November, Lazar appeared unmasked and under his own name.[3]

Area 51 gate
Groom Lake (left) and Papoose Lake (right)

Lazar claims that the propulsion of the studied vehicle was fueled by atomic element 115 (moscovium, first synthesized in 2003) or E115. Lazar explained that E115 generates a gravity wave.[4]

In addition, Lazar claims that during his onboarding to the program, he read briefing documents describing the historical involvement with Earth for the past 10,000 years by extraterrestrial beings, Grey aliens. These aliens are from a planet orbiting the twin binary star system Zeta Reticuli.[5][6]

Lazar's story garnered media attention, controversy, and supporters. Lazar cannot support with evidence his core claim of alien technology.[5][6][7][8]


Education and qualifications

Lazar took electronics courses in the late 1970s at Pierce Junior College in Los Angeles.[citation needed]

Lazar claims he earned a master's degree in physics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), and a master's degree in electronic technology from California Institute of Technology (CalTech); however, there are no records of Lazar attending either MIT or CalTech.[5] Furthermore, Lazar was not a member of a professional body.[citation needed] Lazar claims that his academic records were erased in an effort by authorities to discredit him.[citation needed]

Legal problems in 1990

In 1990, Lazar was arrested for aiding and abetting a prostitution ring. This was reduced to felony pandering, to which he pleaded guilty.[9][10][11] He was ordered to do 150 hours of community service, stay away from brothels, and undergo psychotherapy.[10][11]

During trial and under oath, Lazar again claimed degrees from MIT and Caltech.

Bankruptcy documents verify that Lazar was self-employed as a film processor.[12]

United Nuclear

Lazar owns and operates United Nuclear Scientific Equipment and Supplies, which sells a variety of materials including radiation sensors, radioactive ores, non-radioactive elements (such as pure silicon), powerful magnets, and other scientific equipment such as aerogel, as well as a variety of lab chemicals. In 2006, Lazar and his wife Joy White were charged with violating the Federal Hazardous Substances Act for shipping restricted chemicals across state lines. The charges stemmed from a 2003 raid on United Nuclear's business offices, where chemical sales records were examined.[13]

United Nuclear pleaded guilty to three criminal counts of introducing into interstate commerce, and aiding and abetting the introduction into interstate commerce, banned hazardous substances. In 2007, United Nuclear was fined $7,500 for violating a law prohibiting the sale of chemicals and components used to make illegal fireworks.[14][15]


  1. "Bob Lazar UFO Reverse Engineering Podcast". youtube.com. Retrieved 11 February 2018.
  2. "Bob Lazar 2014". youtube.com. Retrieved 11 February 2018.
  3. George Knapp (1 November 2014). "Out there". KNPR.
  4. "Bob Lazar: The Man Behind Element 115". Lasvegasnow.com. 2005.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 Frank B. Salisbury (2010). A Scientist Brings Reason and Logic to Over 400 UFO Sightings in Utah's Uintah Basin. Cedar Fort, Inc. p. 146.
  6. 6.0 6.1 David Hambling (2016). Weapons Grade. Constable & Robinson. pp. 178–180.
  7. "Area 51 Exhibit To Feature Russian Roswell UFO Artifact At National Atomic Testing Museum". HuffPost. 20 March 2012.
  8. "Area 51: Secrets, Yes; Aliens, No". Live Science. 27 September 2012.
  9. "Unusually Fanatical Observers". Los Angeles Times. 4 February 2003.
  10. 10.0 10.1 "SOURCE IN CHANNEL 8'S UFO SERIES PLEADS GUILTY TO PANDERING CHARGE". Las Vegas Review Journal. 19 June 1990. p. 8b.
  11. 11.0 11.1 "Judge Gives UFO "Witness" Lazar Probation on pandering charge". Las Vegas Review Journal. 21 August 1990. p. 2c.
  12. Stanton Friedman (2012). UFOs: Real Or Imagined?. Rosen Publishing. pp. 122–24.
  13. "Don't Try This at Home". Wired. July 2006.
  14. "New Mexico Company Fined, Ordered To Stop Selling Illegal Fireworks Components". U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission. 20 July 2007.
  15. "US v. United Nuclear Scientific Supplies, et al". United States Department of Justice. 2006.

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